“They are scamming you because if they don’t, their life will come to a very painful end.”

It is an uncomfortable truth. One that we confront head-on in the very first episode of Think CYBR,  the podcast that pulls back the curtain on the real stories behind cyber crime.

In this powerful debut, Jasmin Ilic, CEO and Co-Founder of CYBR, sits down with Michael Brosowski AM, Founder and Strategic Director of Blue Dragon Children's Foundation, for an unflinching conversation about the chilling intersection between cyber crime and human trafficking.

This is not the cyber crime story that you scroll past in headlines. This is the hidden, human cost: where trafficking victims are forced into scam operations, trapped under threats, violence, and fear, with no easy way out.

Michael brings raw, frontline insight into a rapidly evolving crisis: how trafficking networks are weaponising technology, how victims are being coerced into digital crimes, and what it truly takes to fight back.

This episode is a stark reminder: behind every scam, there may be a darker, more devastating story,  one we cannot afford to ignore.